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		<title>Comment on CISPA Passes House, But I See Reasons For Optimism &#8212; Lessons From 2006 And How to COPE With A House Defeat. by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 15:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold,

Sorry to the tardiness of my response. Thanks, as always, for your analysis -- and for your reminder that we have to not let despair get in our way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold,</p>
<p>Sorry to the tardiness of my response. Thanks, as always, for your analysis &#8212; and for your reminder that we have to not let despair get in our way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CISPA Passes House, But I See Reasons For Optimism &#8212; Lessons From 2006 And How to COPE With A House Defeat. by Paul Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DHS is predictable; it&#039;s Salisbury&#039;s Law: &quot;To doctors, nothing is wholesome; to theologians, nothing is innocent; to generals, nowhere is safe.&quot;

And the opposition is attempting to move Republic away from Madison&#039;s definition: &quot;where the magistrates are chosen, directly or indirectly, by the great body of the people.&quot; Most of those who do this support initiative and referendum, which are what Madison wouid have called [direct] democracy, and opposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DHS is predictable; it&#8217;s Salisbury&#8217;s Law: &#8220;To doctors, nothing is wholesome; to theologians, nothing is innocent; to generals, nowhere is safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the opposition is attempting to move Republic away from Madison&#8217;s definition: &#8220;where the magistrates are chosen, directly or indirectly, by the great body of the people.&#8221; Most of those who do this support initiative and referendum, which are what Madison wouid have called [direct] democracy, and opposed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CISPA Passes House, But I See Reasons For Optimism &#8212; Lessons From 2006 And How to COPE With A House Defeat. by Carl Gundel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Gundel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the quote from Ben Franklin.  The important word is &#039;republic&#039;.  This idea is not big in people&#039;s minds.  We don&#039;t get involved.  We think that voting about what they want us to vote about is democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the quote from Ben Franklin.  The important word is &#8216;republic&#8217;.  This idea is not big in people&#8217;s minds.  We don&#8217;t get involved.  We think that voting about what they want us to vote about is democracy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Day The Public Interest Died: Media Access Project Shuts Its Doors After 40 Years of Public Service by Bobbi Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbi Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am at a loss. I had no idea that such a noble institution existed. My sincerest condolences. Well done tribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am at a loss. I had no idea that such a noble institution existed. My sincerest condolences. Well done tribute.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Behind the Bobo by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting paths of what might have been with Bobo. 

I&#039;ve been following it as chapters were posted, and it took a few twists I wasn&#039;t expecting. I can see how the tone would have changed dramatically if the reader was let in too early on the omnicient nature of Bobo&#039;s co-opting of other machines It was pretty well telegraphed the planet would be taken over in short order.. even if the characters were clueless about the fact.

Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting paths of what might have been with Bobo. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following it as chapters were posted, and it took a few twists I wasn&#8217;t expecting. I can see how the tone would have changed dramatically if the reader was let in too early on the omnicient nature of Bobo&#8217;s co-opting of other machines It was pretty well telegraphed the planet would be taken over in short order.. even if the characters were clueless about the fact.</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trayvon Martin and Toulouse by JohnMc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all Jess, you ducked my original question -- Do you condone assault? Its a binary question. Either yes or no please. 

I presume by your &quot;if you feel that a few kicks and punches from a 150 lb....&quot; its probably a yes but I will withhold judgment till you give a definitive answer. 

&quot;Do you condone murder “on another person”?&quot; First of all for the technical definition of murder, no I do not. But that is not the case vis a vis Zimmerman-Martin. Guess you did not read the last part of the previous post where the authorities will not be pressing charges based on all the evidence  pointing to self defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Jess, you ducked my original question &#8212; Do you condone assault? Its a binary question. Either yes or no please. </p>
<p>I presume by your &#8220;if you feel that a few kicks and punches from a 150 lb&#8230;.&#8221; its probably a yes but I will withhold judgment till you give a definitive answer. </p>
<p>&#8220;Do you condone murder “on another person”?&#8221; First of all for the technical definition of murder, no I do not. But that is not the case vis a vis Zimmerman-Martin. Guess you did not read the last part of the previous post where the authorities will not be pressing charges based on all the evidence  pointing to self defense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trayvon Martin and Toulouse by Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you never carry a firearm in public, JohnMc, if you feel that a few kicks and punches from a 150 lb. high schooler against a decade-older, much heavier man with a longer criminal record who is documented as having been in numerous fights as an adult, some of those with police, and who by the way actually started the altercation, is enough of a threat to justify the use of lethal force.

Because it isn&#039;t.

Do you condone murder &quot;on another person&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you never carry a firearm in public, JohnMc, if you feel that a few kicks and punches from a 150 lb. high schooler against a decade-older, much heavier man with a longer criminal record who is documented as having been in numerous fights as an adult, some of those with police, and who by the way actually started the altercation, is enough of a threat to justify the use of lethal force.</p>
<p>Because it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Do you condone murder &#8220;on another person&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trayvon Martin and Toulouse by JohnMc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For charges to be brought the prosecutor would have to produce probable cause and according to the source, “There just isn’t any at this time”. Three eye witnesses completely backup George Zimmerman’s account of being attacked first by Trayvon Martin and his claim of being in fear of his life he shot Martin in self defense.

“Nothing produced so far has degraded that claim” the source said.&quot;

Source -- http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/04/source-george-zimmerman-not-likely-to-be-arrested/

The point of my original comment was that all is not what is being portrayed in the public mind. Martin was not the kid in the photo of 12yo. He was 17, toned, a man. Zimmerman had 20 pounds on the kid sure, most of it fat, and needed to be in a gym. Three witnesses have collaborated Zimmeran&#039;s account, that Martin initiated an assault on him. That means right to defend was in play. 
I would ask Jess, do you condone assault on another person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For charges to be brought the prosecutor would have to produce probable cause and according to the source, “There just isn’t any at this time”. Three eye witnesses completely backup George Zimmerman’s account of being attacked first by Trayvon Martin and his claim of being in fear of his life he shot Martin in self defense.</p>
<p>“Nothing produced so far has degraded that claim” the source said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source &#8212; <a href="http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/04/source-george-zimmerman-not-likely-to-be-arrested/" rel="nofollow">http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/04/source-george-zimmerman-not-likely-to-be-arrested/</a></p>
<p>The point of my original comment was that all is not what is being portrayed in the public mind. Martin was not the kid in the photo of 12yo. He was 17, toned, a man. Zimmerman had 20 pounds on the kid sure, most of it fat, and needed to be in a gym. Three witnesses have collaborated Zimmeran&#8217;s account, that Martin initiated an assault on him. That means right to defend was in play.<br />
I would ask Jess, do you condone assault on another person?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Day The Public Interest Died: Media Access Project Shuts Its Doors After 40 Years of Public Service by Lisa Padol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Padol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kipling;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetrycat.com/rudyard-kipling/the-quest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Quest&lt;/a&gt; comes to mind (and why I can&#039;t find it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/kipling_ind.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; is currently a mystery to me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kipling;s <a href="http://www.poetrycat.com/rudyard-kipling/the-quest" rel="nofollow">The Quest</a> comes to mind (and why I can&#8217;t find it <a href="http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/kipling_ind.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> is currently a mystery to me).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Day The Public Interest Died: Media Access Project Shuts Its Doors After 40 Years of Public Service by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never met Mr. Schwartzman, but am deeply indebted to him for all the reason Harold eloquently gives above.

I met Harold Feld when we happened to be on a panel about the future of the Internet at a science fiction convention. A short while later I started Wetmachine and asked Harold if he wanted to play along. Boy, I got lucky.

Before I met Harold, I basically didn&#039;t know the FCC from the FEC, FAA or DOT. And I certainly hadn&#039;t heard of the MAP and I had no idea of how policy advocacy groups like the MAP work (or secure their funding).

Over the years, mainly thanks to Harold&#039;s posts here on Wetmachine -- and the places they pointed to -- I&#039;ve learned a lot, and I&#039;m a much better informed and much more active citizen for it. And one of the things I&#039;ve learned is the significance of the Media Access Project both as and advocacy group and as a school for progressive policy advocates like Harold. 

As a side benefit to me, my modest little site (or at least Harold&#039;s contributions to it) are widely read by ordinary citizens, policy maker, and policy implementors alike. Being associated with the Wetmachine brand, as it were, has opened doors for me. And for this, I owe a personal thank you to Mr. Schwartzman, because, as Harold points out, not all employers in his position would have allowed their staff attorneys to post on sites like this one. 

I did buy a ticket for last week&#039;s mega millions lottery, but I didn&#039;t win. So I&#039;m not among the deep-pocketed ones Harold addressed in his opening rant. But I&#039;m happy to say that thanks to what I&#039;ve learned from both Harold and the MAP, I am an occasional contributor at the five or ten dollar level to like-minded advocacy groups. Because, as Harold likes to remind us, This Stuff Is Important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never met Mr. Schwartzman, but am deeply indebted to him for all the reason Harold eloquently gives above.</p>
<p>I met Harold Feld when we happened to be on a panel about the future of the Internet at a science fiction convention. A short while later I started Wetmachine and asked Harold if he wanted to play along. Boy, I got lucky.</p>
<p>Before I met Harold, I basically didn&#8217;t know the FCC from the FEC, FAA or DOT. And I certainly hadn&#8217;t heard of the MAP and I had no idea of how policy advocacy groups like the MAP work (or secure their funding).</p>
<p>Over the years, mainly thanks to Harold&#8217;s posts here on Wetmachine &#8212; and the places they pointed to &#8212; I&#8217;ve learned a lot, and I&#8217;m a much better informed and much more active citizen for it. And one of the things I&#8217;ve learned is the significance of the Media Access Project both as and advocacy group and as a school for progressive policy advocates like Harold. </p>
<p>As a side benefit to me, my modest little site (or at least Harold&#8217;s contributions to it) are widely read by ordinary citizens, policy maker, and policy implementors alike. Being associated with the Wetmachine brand, as it were, has opened doors for me. And for this, I owe a personal thank you to Mr. Schwartzman, because, as Harold points out, not all employers in his position would have allowed their staff attorneys to post on sites like this one. </p>
<p>I did buy a ticket for last week&#8217;s mega millions lottery, but I didn&#8217;t win. So I&#8217;m not among the deep-pocketed ones Harold addressed in his opening rant. But I&#8217;m happy to say that thanks to what I&#8217;ve learned from both Harold and the MAP, I am an occasional contributor at the five or ten dollar level to like-minded advocacy groups. Because, as Harold likes to remind us, This Stuff Is Important.</p>
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